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Poster: Max Chorak Date: May 1, 2007 10:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: who...

are jim wise, and charlie miller and all those people!?!?

you never see THOSE people anyway

I would put my pinky on the line, that those people are tapers, as it says "taped by" or whatever, before their name... but who are these people?? I can't find information on them on google.. why are -their- tapes so good? I understand that jim wise has some heavy duty aud tapes around the 80's.. but it's just odd. Did jim tape other concerts too? was he a huge dead head? was he someone that the dead hired to tape their shows to have them archived? Did bill graham order tapings of all the shows? I heard david lemieux saying that there were like 80 shows TAPED and that 30-40 were viewable (yeah right, i'd watch all 80 ha) and that they purposely audio taped shows? taping musta been a pretty cool aspect of gd shows.. did any of you guys see a lot of people holding up cassette thingies to record? were any of YOU tapers? Ever catch any funny moments on tape?

okay im done blabbering

-m

This post was modified by Max Chorak on 2007-05-02 05:19:26

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Poster: Scrim Date: May 1, 2007 11:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who...

I had a taping rig, and recorded most of the shows I attended. Way too much fun, very expensive, always appreciated, usually a sacrifice to be stuck behind the sound board. Did it for you man! Seriously....

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Poster: amosearle Date: May 2, 2007 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who...

Max,

I guess you're one of the younger ones who didn't see them live, but the sight of the small forest of mike stands poking up behind the soundboard helped make a Dead Show unlike any other. The tapers, at least in my circles, had a serious cool-factor, and were not to be disturbed so as not to add unkind sound to an honest effort. I've helped with set ups and hung out with my taper friend (best hookup for shows back then), but it was and is a pricey habit that kept me from becoming a real taper myself. I've got lots of old tapes still, but most are degraded and I don't other with them anymore. I can't make myself get rid of them.

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: May 1, 2007 10:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who...

max those two along with glassberg and jim vita and a host of others where great tapers.great work caputuring the music for us to listen and enjoy.collecting live music of different bands i've come to realize how good these tapers are.get a hold of some live zep or pink floyd aud recordings and you'll see what i mean.charlie miller has pushed the envelope when it comes to quality of sbd's and aud recording.top notch sources and excellant transfers and patch jobs on sbd's.he also works for steve kimock also.you see miller by the text you can't go wrong.also check out the guys doing mouth of the beast http://www.motb.org/ excellant jobs they are doing.here's a sample of what charlie miller has transfered for us to enjoy http://bt.etree.org/?search=charlie+miller&cat=0&incldead=1 spread the tunes far and wide.

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Poster: Chris Freedom Date: May 2, 2007 4:12am
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The Dead's enlightened taping policy also helped to cut out the taping for profit or bootleg syndrome that plagued so many bands.

I remember checking out some of the bootlegs of Zeppelin live in Japan or Pink Floyd etc... And as already mentioned the sound quality usually sucked. Deadheads taped as a labor of love not to make profit. It made all the difference in the world.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: May 1, 2007 10:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who...

what tiger is saying, is that if you listen to the live audience recordings of other bands, you come away with a deeper appreciation, not only for the fact that the GD allowed taping of their live shows, but also of how deadicated and devoted the GD tapers were; those Floyd and Zep and Hendrix, etc. recordings, while you may find a gem or two no doubt, are far inferior to what deadheads are able to enjoy and appreciate; we as fans truly are blessed to have such a catalogue of excellent audience recordings for us to listen to and discuss; no other band from the same era has such a rich and widely excellent range of live recordings, and all available to fans; some excellent audience sources come from the likes of Vita, Wise, Zimmerman, Glassberg, Moore, McCue, Weinberg ... you can rarely go wrong if you see their names in the torrent

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Poster: bigbossdan Date: May 2, 2007 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who...

Oade recordings deserve kudos here as well. These are always quality. As to why the sound is better than other bands, taping was out in the open, no need to try and hold a recorder over your head. The AUD tapes of high quality were mounted on mic stands high overhead and were carefully guarded.

I enjoyed sitting among the tapers at a few shows, although never could afford the gear myself. Liked it because most were religiously quiet and listened to the band instead of shouting to hear how loud you could be.